{"id":51,"date":"2007-04-12T00:07:01","date_gmt":"2007-04-12T08:07:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.sauria.com\/blog\/2007\/04\/12\/ryan-open-source-and-flash\/"},"modified":"2020-04-13T10:29:34","modified_gmt":"2020-04-13T18:29:34","slug":"ryan-open-source-and-flash","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sauria.com\/blog\/2007\/04\/12\/ryan-open-source-and-flash\/","title":{"rendered":"Ryan, Open Source, and Flash"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A few weeks back, I had dinner in Seattle with Ryan Stewart and <a href=\"http:\/\/elearningskinny.com\/great-primer-on-open-source-folkways\/\">Brian Zug<\/a>.  Over the course of several hours we covered a number of topics, including a crash course in open source software.      Yesterday Ryan <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.zdnet.com\/Stewart\/?p=340\">posted<\/a> some of what  he learned during our conversation, including his conclusions about whether or not open sourcing the Flash Player was a good idea.   That post generated a bunch of traffic, so Ryan put up a follow up <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.digitalbackcountry.com\/?p=764\">post<\/a> on his personal blog.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, many people reading Ryan&#8217;s post or one of the aggregated excerpts didn&#8217;t have the context which prompted the dinner and the posts.    All of this took place in the context of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sauria.com\/blog\/2007\/03\/01\/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web\/\">three<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sauria.com\/blog\/2007\/03\/04\/following-up-on-the-microsoft-of-the-web\/\">blog<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sauria.com\/blog\/2007\/03\/07\/why-wpfe-didnt-make-my-cut\/\">posts<\/a> which I wrote last month where I took a look at Adobe&#8217;s Flex\/Apollo technology from the point of view of the openness of the technology.    I&#8217;m interested in Flash only as a component of Flex.  I&#8217;m not interested in singing\/dancing web pages or in Flash based ads,  but much of the reaction to Ryan&#8217;s post was centered around traditional uses of Flash in web pages.    Many people said &#8220;oh, open sourcing it will destroy compatibility&#8221;.   Yet the context of the discussion included ways of maintaining compatibility.<\/p>\n<p>The most interesting response that I found was from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.onflex.org\/ted\/2007\/04\/flash-player-open-history.php\">Ted Patrick<\/a> at Adobe.  Ted shed some light on the ways that Adobe\/Macromedia have involved customers in the development of previous versions of the Flash Player.    This was useful information to have &#8212; I think that I was probably more ignorant of these facts than Ryan was, truth be told &#8211; and suggests to me that there is some culture of working with people outside of Adobe\/Macromedia.   Perhaps most encouraging was his acknowledgment that Adobe could be more open.   Of course that&#8217;s not a commitment to be more open, and indeed, he warns that becoming more open will not happen overnight.    I am not expecting something to happen overnight &#8212; after all, I&#8217;ve waited 9 years for Java, and am still waiting.   The wheels do have to start turning sometime, though.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A few weeks back, I had dinner in Seattle with Ryan Stewart and Brian Zug. Over the course of several hours we covered a number of topics, including a crash course in open source software. 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