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	<title>Comments on: Seattle Strobist Seminar, August 2007</title>
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		<title>By: David Hobby</title>
		<link>http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/08/19/seattle-strobist-seminar-august-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-6357</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 01:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ted-

Thanks much for the recap and kind words. It was great fun to meet so many interesting people, and especially the after-hours conversations. I think you may be right about the one-of-a-kind status on Strobist/One-Light.

Hope to see you again soon.

-David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted-</p>
<p>Thanks much for the recap and kind words. It was great fun to meet so many interesting people, and especially the after-hours conversations. I think you may be right about the one-of-a-kind status on Strobist/One-Light.</p>
<p>Hope to see you again soon.</p>
<p>-David</p>
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		<title>By: rick gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, we have enough (there are 53 members in the Flickr group for instance) but whether they&#039;re all motivated enough to come out - I don&#039;t know. 
I&#039;ve posted a call on Flickr again, emailed one person I know offline, and will just try to drum up some support.
(I suppose we could have a &quot;ferry&quot; meetup as a way of bridging the two groups too.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, we have enough (there are 53 members in the Flickr group for instance) but whether they&#8217;re all motivated enough to come out &#8211; I don&#8217;t know.<br />
I&#8217;ve posted a call on Flickr again, emailed one person I know offline, and will just try to drum up some support.<br />
(I suppose we could have a &#8220;ferry&#8221; meetup as a way of bridging the two groups too.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Leung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Leung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not really sure that we have enough people on the island now.  I have met a few more photographers, but none of them are on Flickr.   I  definitely would like to see something local start up, but I&#039;m a bit at a loss as to how to make that happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not really sure that we have enough people on the island now.  I have met a few more photographers, but none of them are on Flickr.   I  definitely would like to see something local start up, but I&#8217;m a bit at a loss as to how to make that happen.</p>
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		<title>By: rick gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, I think he did say that. But it was in the stream, whether or not it came through to everyone, I don&#039;t know.

On a different subject, it seems to me we have enough people to do one of these &#039;meetup&#039; things on BI now. Something a bit less formal than the &quot;Photo Club&quot; group (which I&#039;ve always had a hard time relating too.) Maybe time to revive that flickr group, announce a subject/date and see who shows?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, I think he did say that. But it was in the stream, whether or not it came through to everyone, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>On a different subject, it seems to me we have enough people to do one of these &#8216;meetup&#8217; things on BI now. Something a bit less formal than the &#8220;Photo Club&#8221; group (which I&#8217;ve always had a hard time relating too.) Maybe time to revive that flickr group, announce a subject/date and see who shows?</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Leung</title>
		<link>http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/08/19/seattle-strobist-seminar-august-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-6346</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Leung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,

A couple of weeks back there was a big Seatte Flickr Strobist get together at Green Lake.   One of the folks took the picture of me, and the photoshopped the nice tree bokeh to that color.   I really liked it, so I&#039;ve been using (with his permission) for profiles.  You can see the uncropped original at http://www.flickr.com/photos/maginashun/1000218048.

As far as rapport, that&#039;s absolutely true, and we spent a bunch of time talking about it with David in the bar in the evening.  I don&#039;t know if David said it on Sunday, but on Saturday he said that a good moment with ok light is much better than a bad moment with great light.   I felt that he did a good job of keeping things in perspective.   Lighting is cool, but it&#039;s just a tool.  If you think about the hypthetical shoot scenario - a big important person in 15 minutes or less, the rapport counts as much as the lighting, and you won&#039;t have as much time to set up the rapport as the lighting.    Someone like David who shoots multiple people a day every day, has to have/develop the skill in order to succeed.  And as you can tell from his presenting, he&#039;s definitely got it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>A couple of weeks back there was a big Seatte Flickr Strobist get together at Green Lake.   One of the folks took the picture of me, and the photoshopped the nice tree bokeh to that color.   I really liked it, so I&#8217;ve been using (with his permission) for profiles.  You can see the uncropped original at <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/maginashun/1000218048" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/maginashun/1000218048</a>.</p>
<p>As far as rapport, that&#8217;s absolutely true, and we spent a bunch of time talking about it with David in the bar in the evening.  I don&#8217;t know if David said it on Sunday, but on Saturday he said that a good moment with ok light is much better than a bad moment with great light.   I felt that he did a good job of keeping things in perspective.   Lighting is cool, but it&#8217;s just a tool.  If you think about the hypthetical shoot scenario &#8211; a big important person in 15 minutes or less, the rapport counts as much as the lighting, and you won&#8217;t have as much time to set up the rapport as the lighting.    Someone like David who shoots multiple people a day every day, has to have/develop the skill in order to succeed.  And as you can tell from his presenting, he&#8217;s definitely got it.</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
		<link>http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/08/19/seattle-strobist-seminar-august-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-6345</link>
		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you suddenly improved your profile picture too!
What is that background? And you look so cynical!

I attended Sunday&#039;s workshop (hence the photo) and it was pretty interesting. David is an engaging speaker, and watching him work communicates even more information. Besides the technical content though, something I&#039;ve noticed from people photographers is that rapport with the subject. David talked a bit about this, but frankly I think its a highly-overlooked aspect to portrait photography.  Some people have this knack, the rest of us have to learn it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you suddenly improved your profile picture too!<br />
What is that background? And you look so cynical!</p>
<p>I attended Sunday&#8217;s workshop (hence the photo) and it was pretty interesting. David is an engaging speaker, and watching him work communicates even more information. Besides the technical content though, something I&#8217;ve noticed from people photographers is that rapport with the subject. David talked a bit about this, but frankly I think its a highly-overlooked aspect to portrait photography.  Some people have this knack, the rest of us have to learn it.</p>
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		<title>By: Darien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was an awesome write up!  When is your book coming out....lol.  Oh wait...it&#039;s already out....lol.  

Great meeting you this weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was an awesome write up!  When is your book coming out&#8230;.lol.  Oh wait&#8230;it&#8217;s already out&#8230;.lol.  </p>
<p>Great meeting you this weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: orcmid</title>
		<link>http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/08/19/seattle-strobist-seminar-august-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-6339</link>
		<dc:creator>orcmid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice.  From what you way, the OneLight workshop would have been a great hands-on start-up for me (though I might not have even had a digital SLR at that time).  Hmm, ough I probably wouldn&#039;t have risked the higher expense, as green as I am with lighting.  

Thanks for the wrap-up.  I loved the seminar.  I&#039;d do it again, especially after more practice on my own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice.  From what you way, the OneLight workshop would have been a great hands-on start-up for me (though I might not have even had a digital SLR at that time).  Hmm, ough I probably wouldn&#8217;t have risked the higher expense, as green as I am with lighting.  </p>
<p>Thanks for the wrap-up.  I loved the seminar.  I&#8217;d do it again, especially after more practice on my own.</p>
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