Comments on: Everything is dead, except Apple and the Web http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/04/13/everything-is-dead-except-apple-and-the-web/ Open Source, Modern Programming Languages, OS X, Photography, and ... Thu, 19 Jan 2012 07:08:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: bowerbird http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/04/13/everything-is-dead-except-apple-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2930 bowerbird Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:58:59 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/04/13/everything-is-dead-except-apple-and-the-web/#comment-2930 why won't your site reflow the text when i resize my window to be as narrow as i would like it? i consider this to be a bug. -bowerbird p.s. you don't have to post this, but i had to ask it. why won’t your site reflow the text when i resize my window
to be as narrow as i would like it? i consider this to be a bug.
-bowerbird

p.s. you don’t have to post this, but i had to ask it.

]]> By: Gabe http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/04/13/everything-is-dead-except-apple-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2776 Gabe Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:20:56 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/04/13/everything-is-dead-except-apple-and-the-web/#comment-2776 Kim: That hardware you speak of runs software, and those services <em>are</em> software. So I fail to see how this leaves no room for open source. As Ted said, this is where open source is truly interesting—as a collaborative means of producing and composing this software and these services, where everyone sharing helps everyone win. Kim: That hardware you speak of runs software, and those services are software. So I fail to see how this leaves no room for open source.

As Ted said, this is where open source is truly interesting—as a collaborative means of producing and composing this software and these services, where everyone sharing helps everyone win.

]]> By: Kimberly http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/04/13/everything-is-dead-except-apple-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2766 Kimberly Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:59:20 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/04/13/everything-is-dead-except-apple-and-the-web/#comment-2766 Whether you agree or not, there has been (it seems) a whole lot of talk these days about the death of Microsoft. Just the fact that people are thinking this way is a big sign of a sea change. (Shelly Palmer has written similar things about Microsoft's current irrelevance -- see <a href="http://advancedmediacommittee.typepad.com/emmyadvancedmedia/2007/02/cracked_windows.html" rel="nofollow">"Cracked Windows"</a> on Medias 3.0.) As for Open Source, I think we're also seeing the rise of new hardware. And hardware that connects to services. That combination, currently, leaves no real room for open source. - Kimberly Whether you agree or not, there has been (it seems) a whole lot of talk these days about the death of Microsoft. Just the fact that people are thinking this way is a big sign of a sea change. (Shelly Palmer has written similar things about Microsoft’s current irrelevance — see “Cracked Windows” on Medias 3.0.)

As for Open Source, I think we’re also seeing the rise of new hardware. And hardware that connects to services. That combination, currently, leaves no real room for open source.

- Kimberly

]]> By: rick http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/04/13/everything-is-dead-except-apple-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2761 rick Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:47:05 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/04/13/everything-is-dead-except-apple-and-the-web/#comment-2761 The notion of "lowered expectations" when dealing with web apps is a key point. We could end up with two tiers of apps as a result: the low-end web-based and the "pro" version that requires a download/installation. You could argue that a stratification/simplification of the UI would provide a way to manage webapp complexity - but so far I've seen complex UI's be pretty tricky to implement in JS and rather slow to use. Ed's got a point, but I think Graham's point was more that their business models are going to change. Office, Windows, Servers and Services make up different portions of their business. This mix will end up changing. PS: Ed: you're supposed to switch them. If they're only running Web and Mail they don't need anything but Firefox and Thunderbird - and they run everywhere! The notion of “lowered expectations” when dealing with web apps is a key point. We could end up with two tiers of apps as a result: the low-end web-based and the “pro” version that requires a download/installation.

You could argue that a stratification/simplification of the UI would provide a way to manage webapp complexity – but so far I’ve seen complex UI’s be pretty tricky to implement in JS and rather slow to use.

Ed’s got a point, but I think Graham’s point was more that their business models are going to change. Office, Windows, Servers and Services make up different portions of their business. This mix will end up changing.

PS: Ed: you’re supposed to switch them. If they’re only running Web and Mail they don’t need anything but Firefox and Thunderbird – and they run everywhere!

]]> By: Ed http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/04/13/everything-is-dead-except-apple-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2758 Ed Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:51:34 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/04/13/everything-is-dead-except-apple-and-the-web/#comment-2758 Paul Graham needs to step outside of his tech savvy circle of friends and visit an average, non-geeky family where "Internet Explorer" equals "The Internet" and "Outlook (Express)" equals "e-mail" and then decide if Microsoft is dead. I don't think they are dead. I just think less people pay attention to what they are doing. Paul Graham needs to step outside of his tech savvy circle of friends and visit an average, non-geeky family where “Internet Explorer” equals “The Internet” and “Outlook (Express)” equals “e-mail” and then decide if Microsoft is dead. I don’t think they are dead. I just think less people pay attention to what they are doing.

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