Comments on: Adobe wants to be the Microsoft of the Web http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/ Open Source, Modern Programming Languages, OS X, Photography, and ... Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:54:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Discover ECMAScript 4: The Future of ActionScript - Josh Talks Flash http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-15634 Discover ECMAScript 4: The Future of ActionScript - Josh Talks Flash Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:23:18 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-15634 [...] of ES4 as the basis for AS3, and they're "publically committed to sticking to [the ES4] standard" (source). The current update to ES4 includes many changes that we will probably see in a future revision to [...] [...] of ES4 as the basis for AS3, and they’re “publically committed to sticking to [the ES4] standard” (source). The current update to ES4 includes many changes that we will probably see in a future revision to [...]

]]> By: Episode 20: Ted Leung on open source in the corporate world | Herding Code http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-15630 Episode 20: Ted Leung on open source in the corporate world | Herding Code Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:03:47 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-15630 [...] Ted’s post: Adobe Wants To Be The Microsoft Of The Web [...] [...] Ted’s post: Adobe Wants To Be The Microsoft Of The Web [...]

]]> By: Architecture of a Desktop RIA platform http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-15580 Architecture of a Desktop RIA platform Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:49:47 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-15580 [...] are many pieces to the puzzle of building an integrated desktop and web application platform. Ted has interesting posting today on this and Ryan has also commented on [...] [...] are many pieces to the puzzle of building an integrated desktop and web application platform. Ted has interesting posting today on this and Ryan has also commented on [...]

]]> By: Just Browsing » AIR, Flex and the Open Web http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-14964 Just Browsing » AIR, Flex and the Open Web Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:01:30 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-14964 [...] of the web. Criticism of Adobe for the proprietary nature of its technology is hardly novel. A widely read piece by Ted Leung calling Adobe the “Microsoft of the Web” is about to celebrate its first birthday: If [...] [...] of the web. Criticism of Adobe for the proprietary nature of its technology is hardly novel. A widely read piece by Ted Leung calling Adobe the “Microsoft of the Web” is about to celebrate its first birthday: If [...]

]]> By: Ryan, Open Source, and Flash at Ted Leung on the Air http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-7154 Ryan, Open Source, and Flash at Ted Leung on the Air Fri, 04 Jan 2008 09:29:13 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-7154 [...] have the context which prompted the dinner and the posts. All of this took place in the context of three blog posts which I wrote last month where I took a look at Adobe’s Flex/Apollo technology [...] [...] have the context which prompted the dinner and the posts. All of this took place in the context of three blog posts which I wrote last month where I took a look at Adobe’s Flex/Apollo technology [...]

]]> By: OSCON 2007 at Ted Leung on the Air http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-7151 OSCON 2007 at Ted Leung on the Air Fri, 04 Jan 2008 09:21:37 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-7151 [...] Source and Rich Internet Applications Since I’ve done some writing about the openness of various RIA technologies, I tried to drop in on talks that seem like they [...] [...] Source and Rich Internet Applications Since I’ve done some writing about the openness of various RIA technologies, I tried to drop in on talks that seem like they [...]

]]> By: Discover ECMAScript 4: The Future of ActionScript - Zeus Labs http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-6829 Discover ECMAScript 4: The Future of ActionScript - Zeus Labs Mon, 29 Oct 2007 03:34:49 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-6829 [...] of ES4 as the basis for AS3, and they're "publically committed to sticking to [the ES4] standard" (source). The current update to ES4 includes many changes that we will probably see in a future revision to [...] [...] of ES4 as the basis for AS3, and they’re “publically committed to sticking to [the ES4] standard” (source). The current update to ES4 includes many changes that we will probably see in a future revision to [...]

]]> By: Ted Leung on the Air » Blog Archive » Thoughts from the Seattle Adobe AIR stop http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-6294 Ted Leung on the Air » Blog Archive » Thoughts from the Seattle Adobe AIR stop Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:28:13 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-6294 [...] fitting to give a presentation on “Openness and the Web”, based on the content of that string of blog posts that started my dialogue with the Adobe folks. The Ignite format (5 minutes, 20 [...] [...] fitting to give a presentation on “Openness and the Web”, based on the content of that string of blog posts that started my dialogue with the Adobe folks. The Ignite format (5 minutes, 20 [...]

]]> By: » Why Rich Internet Applications are important for the browser | The Universal Desktop | ZDNet.com http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-6141 » Why Rich Internet Applications are important for the browser | The Universal Desktop | ZDNet.com Tue, 22 May 2007 22:48:54 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-6141 [...] tedious development cycle and a lot of per-browser workarounds just isn't going to cut it. From Ted's point of view, that is what makes the idea of open source Flash so compelling (and important). We get all the [...] [...] tedious development cycle and a lot of per-browser workarounds just isn't going to cut it. From Ted's point of view, that is what makes the idea of open source Flash so compelling (and important). We get all the [...]

]]> By: » Open web advocates: Get off your high horse | The Universal Desktop | ZDNet.com http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-6140 » Open web advocates: Get off your high horse | The Universal Desktop | ZDNet.com Tue, 22 May 2007 22:47:32 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-6140 [...] having dinner with Ted Leung tonight, and I'm excited to talk to him about RIA technologies and openness, but I take issue [...] [...] having dinner with Ted Leung tonight, and I'm excited to talk to him about RIA technologies and openness, but I take issue [...]

]]> By: » Why I don’t think open source Flash is necessary | The Universal Desktop | ZDNet.com http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-6139 » Why I don’t think open source Flash is necessary | The Universal Desktop | ZDNet.com Tue, 22 May 2007 22:45:12 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-6139 [...] Leung has a thought provoking post titled "Adobe wants to be the Microsoft of the web". From what I've been able to gather, Ted is a big open source advocate, so obviously he [...] [...] Leung has a thought provoking post titled "Adobe wants to be the Microsoft of the web". From what I've been able to gather, Ted is a big open source advocate, so obviously he [...]

]]> By: Microsoft Exposta « Por Que Jogar o Papel no Vaso? http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-4181 Microsoft Exposta « Por Que Jogar o Papel no Vaso? Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:03:43 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-4181 [...] disso, outras empresas estão de olho em uma fatia do mercado de aplicativos para escritório. A Adobe quer ser a Microsoft da web. E quando uma empresa do porte da Adobe faz movimentos agressivos como esse, isso é um bom sinal [...] [...] disso, outras empresas estão de olho em uma fatia do mercado de aplicativos para escritório. A Adobe quer ser a Microsoft da web. E quando uma empresa do porte da Adobe faz movimentos agressivos como esse, isso é um bom sinal [...]

]]> By: Flex opens up « Shebanation http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-3785 Flex opens up « Shebanation Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:32:09 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-3785 [...] in response to a thoughtful but critical post from Ted Leung (of the Chandler/Cosmo project) called Adobe wants to be the Microsoft of the Web. Ted then responded, there were lots of comments and discussion all around, and overall I thought [...] [...] in response to a thoughtful but critical post from Ted Leung (of the Chandler/Cosmo project) called Adobe wants to be the Microsoft of the Web. Ted then responded, there were lots of comments and discussion all around, and overall I thought [...]

]]> By: Why Adobe is NOT the Next Microsoft « Shebanation http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-3781 Why Adobe is NOT the Next Microsoft « Shebanation Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:03:07 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-3781 [...] Adobe is NOT the Next Microsoft Ted Leung has posted blog entry provocatively titled : Adobe wants to be the Microsoft of the Web and Scoble has picked up on [...] [...] Adobe is NOT the Next Microsoft Ted Leung has posted blog entry provocatively titled : Adobe wants to be the Microsoft of the Web and Scoble has picked up on [...]

]]> By: Ted Leung on the Air » Blog Archive » Adobe open sources Flex http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-3759 Ted Leung on the Air » Blog Archive » Adobe open sources Flex Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:03:34 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-3759 [...] development for Flex and Ely Greenfield, one of the Flex architects. After I wrote my original post about open sourcing Flash, I got a note from David asking if I would be willing to spend some time [...] [...] development for Flex and Ely Greenfield, one of the Flex architects. After I wrote my original post about open sourcing Flash, I got a note from David asking if I would be willing to spend some time [...]

]]> By: tecosystems » Grand Desktop Ambitions: The Q&A http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-2268 tecosystems » Grand Desktop Ambitions: The Q&A Sat, 07 Apr 2007 03:40:11 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-2268 [...] technologies that would see themselves crowned as the desktop of the future, or as Ted eloquently put it, the “Microsoft of the Web.” Which is a bit ironic, because while Microsoft is [...] [...] technologies that would see themselves crowned as the desktop of the future, or as Ted eloquently put it, the “Microsoft of the Web.” Which is a bit ironic, because while Microsoft is [...]

]]> By: James http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-1566 James Tue, 27 Mar 2007 02:09:31 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-1566 Adobe's high standards for Flash no longer matter, and its universal penetration will disappear, as <a href="http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/" rel="nofollow">swfdec</a> can now <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/swfdec/2007-March/000134.html" rel="nofollow">play YouTube</a> (Flash's current killer app) so it'll <a href="http://blog.drinsama.de/erich/en/xml/2007032401-please-think-of-the-firefoxes" rel="nofollow">only a matter of time before Linux distros start shipping it</a>, particularly as it works on AMD64 where the official Flash client doesn't. So Adobe better get its act together and open up the Flash docs or Flex will die from incompatability. Hmm, if swfdec gets triple-licensed I could even see it being integrated into Gecko, although I grant it's pretty unlikely. Some sort of marriage of SVG and Flash would be pretty hot though. Adobe’s high standards for Flash no longer matter, and its universal penetration will disappear, as swfdec can now play YouTube (Flash’s current killer app) so it’ll only a matter of time before Linux distros start shipping it, particularly as it works on AMD64 where the official Flash client doesn’t. So Adobe better get its act together and open up the Flash docs or Flex will die from incompatability.

Hmm, if swfdec gets triple-licensed I could even see it being integrated into Gecko, although I grant it’s pretty unlikely. Some sort of marriage of SVG and Flash would be pretty hot though.

]]> By: Flash Business « Omar’s Blog http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-1401 Flash Business « Omar’s Blog Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:48:14 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-1401 [...] pundits (most recently Ted Leung and Anne Zelenka) worry that Adobe’s control of the Flash standard is bad for the web. They [...] [...] pundits (most recently Ted Leung and Anne Zelenka) worry that Adobe’s control of the Flash standard is bad for the web. They [...]

]]> By: eLearning Skinny » Blog Archive » Great Primer on Open Source Folkways http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-816 eLearning Skinny » Blog Archive » Great Primer on Open Source Folkways Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:38:10 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-816 [...] couple of weeks ago I noticed that two good friends of mine here in Seattle were cross posting on their blogs about Flash/Flex momentum and how [...] [...] couple of weeks ago I noticed that two good friends of mine here in Seattle were cross posting on their blogs about Flash/Flex momentum and how [...]

]]> By: Ted Leung on the Air » Blog Archive » Why WPF/E didn’t make my cut http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-668 Ted Leung on the Air » Blog Archive » Why WPF/E didn’t make my cut Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:56:12 +0000 http://www.sauria.com/blog/2007/03/01/adobe-wants-to-be-the-microsoft-of-the-web/#comment-668 [...] disputed the fact that a single vendor solution could rise to the top. That was the point of my original post. However, and unsurprisingly, I disagree that openness is irrelevant to the popularity of RIA [...] [...] disputed the fact that a single vendor solution could rise to the top. That was the point of my original post. However, and unsurprisingly, I disagree that openness is irrelevant to the popularity of RIA [...]

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